Разработка проектов на Xbox 360

[i-george 0]

Что-то пока у меня плохо получается ролик. Ну это так - убер черновой материал. Сегодня сюда кадры постараюсь залить! :)

[You LOse 0]

Если бы цензоры пропустили такую идею я бы был бы рад сделать аткую игрушку http://loadup.ru/video/view/?id=v71864210

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Ребят срочно нужен перевод, всего документа и дословно:

 

So You Wanna Make an Xbox Live Arcade Game?

Microsoft's booming Xbox Live Arcade Community proves to be popular among developers large and small.

 

Many developers at this year's Game Developers Conference forsook Sony's flashy keynote presentation across the street to attend a seminar about developing games for Xbox Live Arcade. How many? Enough to pack the room so full of people that conference organizers had to move the presentation to a larger venue down the hall.

Why are developers so excited about Xbox Live Arcade? In an age where game development budgets are spiraling out of control and retail shelf space is shrinking, XBLA provides a market where developers who don't necessarily have deep pockets can actually produce and publish a game in a short time for a reasonable amount of money. It's also a safe haven where experimental game ideas are welcomed, and where social features (like buddy lists and high score tables) are all but built into the game for free.

So how can developers get in on this? It sounds easy if Microsoft is to be believed. The presentation began by reiterating the points that Peter Moore made during his speech at D.I.C.E.: Xbox Live Arcade is booming, with around 30 games available, over 3 million downloads since launch, and a conversion rate of an incredible 20%. (The most successful game on Xbox Live Arcade has a 39% conversion rate, meaning 4 out of every ten people who try the demo buy it. In comparison, PC game downloads average around 1.5% conversion.) These numbers are a little misleading because Xbox Live Arcade is so new, but they still show that the Xbox Live model works. It's winning over both hardcore gamers and the casual people in their circle of friends and family. More importantly, it's a working marketplace where smaller titles can still sell.

Marble Blast Ultra numbers among the Xbox Live Arcade Success Stories

Let's say you're a developer and you want to get started. It all begins with a concept submission, which is simply emailed to arcade@microsoft.com. (Better keep reading before you start typing out that email). The team at Microsoft is looking for several things. For one, they want ideas that'll expand the Xbox Live Arcade offering -- not clones of existing games. For another, they want games that'll work well on a console and that'll utilize the features of Live as much as possible. They want "quick-playing" games, things players can pick up and put down fifteen minutes later. These games are meant to be downloaded, so they shouldn't require a manual, or maps, or complex instructions -- "pick up and play" simplicity is the key to a successful Live Arcade game. Game submissions also have to work within the "free demo - buy the full version" model. And finally, while not a hard and fast rule, Xbox Live games should be under 50MB, with games under 25MB being ideal. That way people can store the entire game on their memory unit and take it to a friend's house.

It's also worth noting that the submission team who monitors the above email address also wants to work with people who will actually be able to deliver a product. Experience and working capital is a plus, although the presenters pointed out that they're currently working with teams as small as two people.

Once Microsoft likes the idea, the team there will provide game developers with support throughout the process. Documentation is available, developers can talk out their problems in a special Xbox Live Arcade developers' support forum, and Microsoft provides checklists and testing guidelines for every milestone along the process. Microsoft even has partnerships with testing and localization companies, meaning that small developers can access these services at discounted rates.

No wonder the room was packed with eager game developers. Of course, the certification process for Xbox Live Arcade games is just as rigorous as for a regular game title. Games are tested technically (making sure they don't crash or corrupt saved game data, for example) and functionally (making sure that it's possible to win the game and to get all the Live achievements, among other things). It's pretty serious stuff, but despite this, Xbox Live Arcade games have made it through the whole development process in as fast as three months, with many first-time developers releasing their game after around 6-7 months of development. In recent years the buzz at the Game Developers Conference has been harsh, with developers worried about spiraling costs and wondering how it's possible to release innovative games in such a tough market. Here's one place that's offering a solution, and from the looks of it, game creators were jumping at the opportunity to get started.

[i-george 0]

Черт, Вов, только в 19.00 смогу приступить к переводу. Я сейчас на работу в ночную убегаю. Если все еще будет нужен перевод, то я к 20.00 обязательно все переведу! :(

 

Бегло ознакомился. Это - инструкция, что надо делать, чесли мыгорим идеей создать игры на Arcade. :)

 

Все, Вов, извини, отчалил на работу. Но все-равно переведу!

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"Creating an XBLA game is taking most studios 6 to 12 months," Tunnell wrote. "Costs are currently ranging from $100,000 to $300,000...The industry-standard arms race will quickly make the top-end $300,000 budget a cheap product. Right now, I wouldn't consider attempting to make an XBLA game with a $100,000 budget. Development kits and Certification (QA testing) would eat up half of that, not leaving much for the actual game development. While these budgets may seem high to Indies, these budgets wouldn't buy coffee on an AAA console title for the retail box channel."

 

Tunnell wouldn't give an exact figure for the budget of Marble Blast Ultra, but suggested it was at the higher end of that range. He then figured out roughly how many people had paid the $10 worth of Marketplace Points for it by checking the game's leaderboards, which listed about 120,000 gamer tags.

 

So for the purposes of Tunnell's example, Marble Blast Ultra grossed about $1.2 million--but how much went to GarageGames? "The publicly available information on this is that the distribution fees for bringing a game to XBLA is 35 to 70 percent, depending upon participation by [Microsoft]," Tunnell wrote.

 

So if GarageGames funded its own development of the game and Microsoft only took 35 percent, the company would be left with $780,000. "Again, if you are a starving indie developer, this sounds like an infinite amount of money. But, in the world of publishers, this is not considered a big hit," Tunnell wrote.

 

Tunnell said when he headed up a studio for a publicly traded company, the benchmark of success was whether or not a game returned five times the amount invested into it. "But, I no longer have public shareholders to please," Tunnell pointed out. "As the cofounder of a small independent game technology provider that makes a few games, I am extremely happy with our returns from XBLA360, and I also know that we are not done yet."

 

Tunnell suggested that going forward, the big challenge for XBLA developers will simply be getting carried by the service. Microsoft has stressed that it will carefully manage the portfolio of games available on Xbox Live Arcade, and the increase in traditional publishers creating games for the service could make it more difficult for independents to get a spot at the table.

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I've been to countless parties where people pontificated on their incredible ideas for making the best Halo, Half-Life or A-Team game ever. But making great interactive entertainment doesn't just take a good idea. It doesn't usually require beer, either. It's all hard work, focus, teamwork, talent, and in many cases, luck. What does it really take to make a great videogame? If you ask Microsoft's Xbox Live Arcade Team Manager Greg Canessa and his 20-plus XBLA team, they might not only listen, they might even accept your idea.

 

The management team at XBLA sees Xbox Live Arcade games as consisting of three types: indy, new games, and retro (as we showed in yesterday's article), and it's also got a very clear idea of what does make a good XBLA game versus what doesn't. If you look at the current lineup of games, you'll notice a theme -- the games are quick and easy to pick-up-and-play, they're not long or complicated, nor are they terribly complex, and they're small enough to fit on an Xbox 360 memory card. The XBLA team is more likely to publish a game like Konami's old-school Run-and-Gun hoops title than, say, Madden NFL 07, the difference being complexity, size, and style of team sports. Make sense?

 

Still want to make a game for XBLA? Games such as Cloning Clyde, Outpost Kaloki X, Zuma, and Marble Blast Ultra are perfect examples of games that have made it big on either XBLA first or on PC first and the retro-fitted on XBLA. They're the first but not the last to appear on this system. Canessa and team are looking for key ideas in games: They should take advantage of Xbox Live and the upcoming Vision technology (Microsoft's upcoming Webcam), they should be fun adversarially and cooperatively, and they should be inventive. If you're still with me, Microsoft's Canessa gave us a brief overview of the process of accepting and following through on a game concept.

Cloning Clyde is like Oddworld, but different.

"Developing a game for Xbox Live Arcade can cost a few hundred thousand dollars and take a small group of passionate game makers anywhere between 4-6 months to develop and test the title," says Canessa's overview. "Upon approval of the game concept and successful evaluation of the developer, the game creators work closely with the Arcade team on everything from game design and testing to ratings, localization and certification. Upon completion, the Arcade team then puts the game up onto Xbox Live for download according to a specified Arcade release schedule.

"The Arcade team accepts game concept submissions from a wide variety of sources, including indie developers, medium-sized companies and large established publishers. Xbox Live Arcade is a managed portfolio, which means that only certain concepts are accepted, and approval is based on the ongoing needs of the Arcade service and the gamer. Titles and developers are also closely evaluated for quality upon approval and at every stage to ensure that the quality bar is high and the developers are legitimate and dependable.

Zuma is just plain addictive.

"The Arcade team gets well over a dozen new submissions per week from developers and publishers, so breaking through can be tough. Creative, innovative concepts that utilize features like Xbox Live multiplayer, co-op play, downloadable content and use of the upcoming Xbox Live Vision camera are all desired and help set your concept apart from the rest. Due to the volume of concept submissions, don't be surprised if it takes a while to hear back from Microsoft on your concept one way or another."

 

 

 

XBLA: How to Make an Xbox Live Arcade Game

by Douglass C. Perry

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The XBLA team breaks down the process in 10 steps. If you're serious about making a game, here are the steps you'll need to follow to make it big, or…small.

 

 

 

Contact the Arcade team with your game concept.

 

If the Arcade team is interested in your game idea, they will contact you.

 

Fill out the proper paperwork with Microsoft to get you going.

 

Formally submit your game concept. Include as much information as possible, including design documents, concept art, screen shot mock-ups and/or prototypes if available.

 

If your concept makes it through the initial screening, it goes to the Arcade portfolio review committee for discussion and evaluation.

 

After evaluating the title (and possibly researching the developer if they are unknown), the game concept gets a thumbs up or thumbs down.

Once approved, you get access to all the developer tools and documentation that you need to develop an Arcade game. You also get access to buy Xbox development kits.

Develop your Arcade title. You pay for development (it's your game after all!). In many cases the Arcade team assigns a producer to work with you, and they provide design help, assistance with Gamerscore and achievements, and work with you on schedules. Your title needs to hit certain milestones to show regular progress.

Once your title is near complete, it goes through a full test pass (again, you pay for testing). The developer is responsible for acquiring ratings and for localizing the title into other languages. The title is debugged and verified, then the game goes through the regular Xbox 360 certification process and must pass before it can be digitally signed.

Your title goes Live on the service! Each time someone buys the game on XBLA, the developer gets a healthy share of the revenue.

Outpost Kaloki X is a different kind of game for the platform.

Who makes the important decisions at Microsoft? What do they know about games? Are they simply sitting back and watching TV, randomly selecting a game here and there while eating pizza and falling asleep on the couch? Not really. The XBLA management team meets weekly and discusses games regularly. They play them too. Canessa and his team see the managed portfolio as an essential quality in accepting games, so they look at the kinds of games they have and search out the kinds of games that aren't already on XBLA. So, unless your game blows Geometry Wars Evolved away, it's not likely the team is urgently seeking out another 2D space shooter. Are there many fighting games on the system? What about simple 2D platformers? Cloning Clyde fits the bill, but there is still room for more there. Chess, card games, poker games, and oodles more casual and arcade game types haven't grace the system yet.

When you submit your proposal, you'll give the data to a dedicated and talented team of people. The team represents dozens of years of experience from Microsoft and other leading game companies and is both passionate about the gamer and the Arcade experience. Here's a look at the team who either makes or breaks you.

If you've read this far, you deserve to obtain this crucial information -- how to contact Microsoft with your idea. If you've got a real, viable game idea and you're drop-dead serious about making it, send it to "arcade@microsoft.com".

[You LOse 0]

Гошь, три поста перевести надо.

[i-george 0]

Черт, Вов! Сейчас на работе Windows переставляют. Теперь уж до ночи!

[i-george 0]

Вов, первую часть перевел. Смотри личку и e-mail. :)

[You LOse 0]

Вов, первую часть перевел. Смотри личку и e-mail. :)

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Всё прочитал, спасибо огромное. Смотри личку тоже.

Посмотрел проекты которые пользуются популярность в XBLA, блин чёт как то тухло, но дизайн прикольный. Всё гениальное просто и нам всем ребята надо думать дальше над идеями а Гоше делать наброски и желательно деморолики.

Кость подключайся плотнее, каждый движет проект со своей стороны, ты вроде идеи тоже рождать должен :)

Изменено 27 февраля 2007 пользователем You LOse

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Всё прочитал, спасибо огромное. Смотри личку тоже.

Посмотрел проекты которые пользуются популярность в XBLA, блин чёт как то тухло, но дизайн прикольный. Всё гениальное просто и нам всем ребята надо думать дальше над идеями а Гоше делать наброски и желательно деморолики.

Кость подключайся плотнее, каждый движет проект со своей стороны, ты вроде идеи тоже рождать должен  :)

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Черт! Дороговато же выходит! Минимум 200 000-300 000 $. Dev Kit обязателен!

 

P.S. Вов, постарайтесь вести меня в курсе. Потому что я не могу что-либо делать или думать не обладая вообще никакой информацией. Короче, координируйте меня, давайте задания.

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Черт! Дороговато же выходит! Минимум 200 000-300 000 $. Dev Kit обязателен!

 

P.S. Вов, постарайтесь вести меня в курсе. Потому что я не могу что-либо делать или думать не обладая вообще никакой информацией. Короче, координируйте меня, давайте задания.

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Кость задание только одно, идеи. С хорошей идей можно на крайний случай издателя найти. Главное это идея. Больше ничего не требуется. Придумал одну, сразу думай о второй, третьей и так далее.

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Кость задание только одно, идеи. С хорошей идей можно на крайний случай издателя найти. Главное это идея. Больше ничего не требуется. Придумал одну, сразу думай о второй, третьей и так далее.

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ОК. :grin:

[i-george 0]

Черт! Дороговато же выходит! Минимум 200 000-300 000 $. Dev Kit обязателен!

Нет, Кость, ты не понял. Это стоимость среднестатистического проэкта на консоль в основном. Причем консоль не указывается. А главная мысль - это именно то, что не нужно тратить эти 200-300 тысяч, про которые ходят слухи, т.к. это см. выше! :)

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Нет, Кость, ты не понял. Это стоимость среднестатистического проэкта на консоль в основном. Причем консоль не указывается. А главная мысль - это именно то, что не нужно тратить эти 200-300 тысяч, про которые ходят слухи, т.к. это см. выше! :)

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Жор, но тут говориться именно про Arcade. Даже написано, что на Marvel Blast потратили 1,2 млн $. Но это я так, можно и 10000 руб. уложиться. Купить ящик "анакома" и делать игру! :)

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В общем не будем догадки строить. Видать я просто не так понял. Я просто бегло прочел. Сейчас перевожу. Так что будем держать руку на пульсе. Главное, что если идея Microsoft понравится, то она возьмет все расходы на себя. Просто наличие капитала приветствуется. Серьезнее относиться будут чтоли? :)

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В общем не будем догадки строить. Видать я просто не так понял. Я просто бегло прочел. Сейчас перевожу. Так что будем держать руку на пульсе. Главное, что если идея Microsoft понравится, то она возьмет все расходы на себя. Просто наличие капитала приветствуется. Серьезнее относиться будут чтоли? :)

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Я про тоже, только точная информация, а точнее некуда пост от господина Мура и его пресконференции. Потому так и важна супер идея и креативный деморолик.

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Я про тоже, только точная информация, а точнее некуда пост от господина Мура и его пресконференции. Потому так и важна супер идея и креативный деморолик.

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Вов, я Жоре уже сказал: надо сегодня вечером создать сервер Gow и просто поболтать по гарнитуре, ты как?

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Вов, я Жоре уже сказал: надо сегодня вечером создать сервер Gow и просто поболтать по гарнитуре, ты как?

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Хорошо я в 22-00 по Москве смогу вылезти. Тогда и обсудим что и как.

[i-george 0]

Так, Вов. Ну вот я и запнулся. Ничего если я в 17.00 тебе тогда обе части в переводе скину на e-mail. Просто пока с работой не получается, а переводчика с собой корманного нет! :( забыл! :angry:

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Господа, тогда в 22-00 в Live! Изменено 27 февраля 2007 пользователем Gambit

[i-george 0]

Вов, получай вторую часть. С последней пока трудности в переводе. есть непонятности. Сегодня будет! :) Проверяй личку и e-mail.

[Gambit 0]

Вов, получай вторую часть. С последней пока трудности в переводе. есть непонятности. Сегодня будет! :) Проверяй личку и e-mail.

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Жор, ты смс вчера получал? Просто, у меня вчера проблемы с компьютером были.

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Вов, получай вторую часть. С последней пока трудности в переводе. есть непонятности. Сегодня будет! :) Проверяй личку и e-mail.

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Пока не пришло Гош, спасибо за старания. Я нашёл официальный сайт майкрософт посвящённый разработке казуальных игр для лайва и официальную презентацию сервиса, а так же инструкцию для разработчиков. Вот кстати список самых скачиваемых игр для XBLA

Geometry Wars

UNO

Marble Blast Ultra

Gauntlet

Zuma

Сегодня буду изучать феномен каждой. Вот кстати шаги перед запуском игры которые сама Майкрософт описывает.

Step #1: Submit Concept – Work with Arcade Portfolio Planning team (arcade@microsoft.com) or your established account manager to determine whether your title is a good fit and to iron out the business details.

 

Step #2: Kickoff – Get engaged with the Arcade production team to discuss requirements and best practices that are unique to Arcade titles. Get lined up with Arcade-specific support materials.

 

Step #3 – Get Cranking – Develop an awesome Arcade title that every Xbox 360 owner will have to have! Work with the Arcade team along the way to check progress of the title at various milestones.

 

Step #4 – Submit to Cert – Arcade titles are certified along with all other Xbox 360 titles.

 

Step #5 – Release to Market – The title is made available in Marketplace and the downloads begin.

Вроде общий смысл понятен. Главное это проработанная концепция и в нашем случае деморолик игрушки и рисунки с основными моментами.

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Из всего списка единственная, на мой взгляд, достойная - это UNO. И то, благодаря поддержки камеры.